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DonnP
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May 27, 2016 6:11 am  

The example in the crush micro course - shows a two card club flush draw on the flop with

player Hero having Ac & Tc in the pocket ie gives a 9 out flush draw - I am wondering when player 

Villian is analyzing Heros flush possibilties should Villian work backwards and compute Heros two

club pocket possibilties by using a card combo calculation of (( (13-2)/2)/1225) =s 4.5% which is a 

pretty low preflop possibility?  Calculation came from 13 suit cards minus two on flop divided by two

cards in pocket finally divided by the 1225 pre flop combinations using 50 unseen cards.

Havent used Equilab to access this issue - but if the above is valid then is a quick way to get some

insight on potential flush draws???

DonnP


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Alton - MicroGrinder Poker
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May 27, 2016 2:12 pm  

I am wondering when player Villian is analyzing Heros flush possibilties should Villian work backwards and compute Heros two

club pocket possibilties by using a card combo calculation of (( (13-2)/2)/1225) =s 4.5% which is a pretty low preflop possibility?

This isn't typically how people put their opponents on hand ranges. Rather than try to mathematically work backwards to put people on specific combinations of hands, we start putting our opponents on potential ranges of hands pre-flop when the hand starts and then narrow it on the flop, turn, and river based upon the player's playing style / tendencies / HUD stats, the action in the hand, and the board texture.

For example, if our opponent raises UTG with an average opening range of 9% based upon historical data that we have on his HUD stats or general ideas of his playing style, then we can estimate pre-flop that his pre-flop opening range consists of something like this: 88+, ATs+, KTs+, QJs, AJo+, KQo

All of the remaining combinations of flush draws possible in the deck aren't even in our opponent's opening range, so by knowing his pre-flop estimated range, we can easily determine how much of that range consists of flush draw

We can then narrow his range based upon the post-flop action and board texture. Did you watch the lecture in section 7 on hand ranges? If not, I definitely recommend watching it.

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ChingEpoker
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December 3, 2016 11:46 pm  

DonnP said
The example in the crush micro course - shows a two card club flush draw on the flop with

player Hero having Ac & Tc in the pocket ie gives a 9 out flush draw - I am wondering when player 

Villian is analyzing Heros flush possibilties should Villian work backwards and compute Heros two

club pocket possibilties by using a card combo calculation of (( (13-2)/2)/1225) =s 4.5% which is a 

pretty low preflop possibility?  Calculation came from 13 suit cards minus two on flop divided by two

cards in pocket finally divided by the 1225 pre flop combinations using 50 unseen cards.

Havent used Equilab to access this issue - but if the above is valid then is a quick way to get some

insight on potential flush draws???

DonnP  

DonnP, I actually like what you are saying alot, I guess its really situational. Correct me if I am wrong, I am not really understanding what "s" represents? That is the chance of a player holding a flush draw when there is a flush draw on the flop?


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Alton - MicroGrinder Poker
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December 4, 2016 10:03 am  

"s" is short handed for suited and "o" is short handed for offsuited:

AKs = AK suited

AKo = AK offsuit

Hope that helps!


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