Correct play on flopped full house?  

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Siego7
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September 6, 2017 10:56 pm  

4NL 6max game and no notes on any of the players yet as I just started this as a second table.

I get pocket 4's in CO position and raise 3bb, folds to the SB who reraises.
As he started with 100bb he is deep enough to call, so that's what I do.
The flop is pretty favorable as I flop a full house.

Villain checks and I check back as I have the board crushed. The plan is to let him catch up on the turn or river.
The turn is a Ten and he bets half pot, I just make the call and hopes that he will keep betting on the river so I can reraise him.
The river is an Ace and villain bets out again. 

Here is where I started to doubt. Should I reraise all in? Or not? An all in here could scare him (or her of course) as I noticed before. If you know upfront that you have a calling station it is an easy decision. But here with no notes?
Therefore I decided to reraise, but not all in. Correct decision? 

Game #570378799: Table NL4 - 0.02/0.04 - No Limit Hold'Em - 14:23:25 2017/09/07

***Seated players ***
Seat 1: Hero (€4)
Seat 2: EmmettBrown (€8.36)
Seat 3: HIHIHIHIHIH (€4.02)
Seat 4: CobrasFumant (€4)
Seat 5: Hithere22 (€3.56)
Seat 6: PROFESIONAL (€4.16)

*** Blinds and button***
EmmettBrown has the button
HIHIHIHIHIH posts small blind, €0.02
CobrasFumant posts big blind, €0.04

*** Hole cards***
Dealt in HIHIHIHIHIH
Dealt in CobrasFumant
Dealt in Hithere22
Dealt in PROFESIONAL
Dealt to Hero [4c 4s]
Dealt in EmmettBrown

*** Preflop***
Hithere22 folds
PROFESIONAL folds
Hero raises €0.12 to €0.12
EmmettBrown folds
HIHIHIHIHIH raises €0.31 to €0.33
CobrasFumant folds
Hero calls €0.21

Pot size: €0.70

*** Flop ***
[4h 3d 3s]
HIHIHIHIHIH checks
Hero checks

***Turn ***
[4h 3d 3s] [Th]
HIHIHIHIHIH bets €0.35
Hero calls €0.35

Pot size: €1.40

*** River ***
[4h 3d 3s] [Th] [As]
HIHIHIHIHIH bets €1.05
Hero raises €2.50 to €2.50
HIHIHIHIHIH calls €1.45

***Showdown***
Hero shows [4c 4s], Full house
HIHIHIHIHIH shows [Jc Ad], Two pairs, Aces up
Hero wins €6.34 


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crance99
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September 8, 2017 6:13 am  

i think i would have re raised him all in on the river. The reason is 2 things. If he was willing to call the re-raise for 2/3 of his remaining chips he will call for the rest. At this point he is pot committed. By his bet size on the river you can tell he has and A Broadway in his hand. At those levels and above i find if someone hits an A Broadway that is the only thing they see, and they wont fold it. 


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Siego7
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September 8, 2017 7:46 pm  

Thanks for the advice @crance99.

Post flop play is not my strongest point for the time being...so that is why most of my questions are about this kind of plays. 
I should be able to get more value in this kind of situations, so the feedback is well appreciated!


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Alton - MicroGrinder Poker
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September 9, 2017 6:46 am  

I think the river bet sizing is fine. We want to ensure we get value and without knowing anything specific about villain (no HUD stats, notes, or reads) I think a standard raise sizing is fine.

You can look at the EV of a standard raise versus the EV of an all-in too. Say he calls $2.50 raise 100% of the time and calls an all-in 60% of the time when villain has $2.48 behind after his river bet, for example:

Raise to $2.50: 1.00 x $1.45 = $1.45

Raise All-In: 0.60 x $2.48 = $1.49

So villain has to call your all-in around 2/3 of the time for it to be more profitable than your standard raise. So knowing this, I'm cool with the normal raise.

But as Crance says, it is 4nl and people overplay top pair. So if you know he overplays top pair then just ship the river all-in and stack him. 🙂


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