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February 20, 2018
Hero (SB): 131 BB
BB: 108.5 BB (39/4 – AF1) 47 hands
UTG: 166 BB
CO: 242 BB (25/17 – AF1) 54 hands
BTN: 81.5 BB
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 3 3
UTG calls 1 BB, CO raises to 4 BB, fold, Hero calls 3.5 BB, BB calls 3 BB, fold
Flop: (13 BB, 3 players) J T 3
Hero bets 13 BB, BB calls 13 BB, CO calls 13 BB
Turn: (52 BB, 3 players) 7
Hero bets 52 BB, BB calls 52 BB, CO calls 52 BB
River: (208 BB, 3 players) Q
Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets 80 BB, fold, fold
CO wins 274.5 BB
Q: Can we take a donk pot line here?
Guess: I think donking here big is fine because its such a wet board vs 1 fish who we can stack with 2Pair and he will prob. call with a lot of stuff. We dont wanna see any broadways or 4th flushcard, and if it goes chk/chk/chk OTF would be pretty bad.
Q: Should i chk/call or chk/raise OTF?
Guess: I think chk/raise i will rep only a flush and will only get action from the reg (iso-raiser) with better hands, also i think the fish will fold some stuff which he is willing to call if i lead. Chk/call im not sure, because i dont wanna give free cards if they both decide to chk OTF.
April 21, 2016
This is the dilemma of set-mining out of position and why set-mining is much more preferable in position.
So you answer is yes to both. Under the correct circumstances, either donk betting or looking to take a check-raise line is okay. The answer is it depends. It depends on primarily on CO. How often does CO c-bet after iso-raising a limper? What is CO’s perceived pre-flop iso-raising range? If CO has a strong perceived iso-raising range and c-bets a lot on the flop, then a check-raise is preferable, if not, donk betting is preferable with 3 or more opponents on a wet board texture.
Also, if you perceive CO to not have too strong of an iso-raising range and the limper isn’t a calling station, you should probably for your hand pre-flop.
When you do donk bet, your sizing is on the large size. A pot-sized bet on the flop and turn is a bit too much if you want to ensure you extract value. I would recommend a 3/4 pot-sized bet.
On a side note, I’d recommend taking a note on these specific opponents noting their tendency to call massively large pot-sized bets (most likely chasing draws) on a wet board texture.
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